Hempy Buckets

[Youngguns]

What do you think of them?

If you've never heard of them, they are usually a 2 gallon bucket filled with perlite(3 parts) and vermiculite(1 part). A hole is drilled 2 inches above the bottom, into the side, with a hole a little less than in inch. The bottom two inches always have water, and you water once every 1-2 days. I'm not sure how many plants, I was thinking 4...

I am thinking about trying this method out for my first grow.

I am purchasing:

Rockwool plugs, vermiculite, perlite...

Something for smell... not sure if I should get the ozone thing or charcoal?

Ballast- Lumatek 1000 watt Electronic ballast 240 Volt

These Bulbs- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=7062A
- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=smcoolddx
(Not sure if I should get a conversion bulk, or one of each?)

Hood- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=38017

Growroom- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=sunhutXL

Nutes- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=novab
(And the vegging one)

A small oscillating fan- http://www.progressive-growth.com/oscillating_fans.php
(One of these)


Ok, I know very little on this subject, so I'm all for any opinions/ suggestions/ help is greatly appreciated :)

Is 1000watt too big? What do you think my yeild would be? (I know everyone hates this question, because of all the variables, you can just comment on the max or min or whatever if you want, thanks:))

[Cyclonite]

If you go with a 1k...use 5 gallon buckets. You will have 4 monster bushes.
Min with that would be around 12oz, If you do it right 15-20oz.

I would go with a 600 digital for 4 plants though, thats plenty.

[Youngguns]

Interesting you say that, I don't want heat issues, and I don't really know how to deal with them...
If I get the digital ballast with a premium bulb it will emit a LOT more lumens right? Enough to compare with a basic 1000? I thought 1 gram per watt was a GREAT YEILD? I was thinking about getting a strain that was 42-50 days...

to be honest I'm not sure of the strain either, I need some suggestions on that too, I cannot choose! All I know is I don't want a long flowering sativa...

[Cyclonite]

A digital 600 with a nice bulb can put out close to a magnetic 1k with cheapo bulbs....1ks put out lots of heat.

1g/watt is really great....I got .25g/watt my first run and have done better each time

Go with an easy to grow indica....they are some stout little girls.

NL #5 is a good strain for a first time GDP is killer, clone only though.

If your in Ca then get a card and look for some good cuts, you may get lucky and get some really nice ones.

[Youngguns]

A digital 600 with a nice bulb can put out close to a magnetic 1k with cheapo bulbs....1ks put out lots of heat.

1g/watt is really great....I got .25g/watt my first run and have done better each time

Go with an easy to grow indica....they are some stout little girls.

NL #5 is a good strain for a first time GDP is killer, clone only though.

If your in Ca then get a card and look for some good cuts, you may get lucky and get some really nice ones.

GDP?

I live in Canada :(


Maybe I can put 4 plants per hempy bucket...?

I don't want to have to veg for too long. With the ballast I've mentioned, I can use both a MH and a HPS right?

[Youngguns]

Sorry the link don't work! Here's the same post with working links :)

What do you think of them?

If you've never heard of them, they are usually a 2 gallon bucket filled with perlite(3 parts) and vermiculite(1 part). A hole is drilled 2 inches above the bottom, into the side, with a hole a little less than in inch. The bottom two inches always have water, and you water once every 1-2 days. I'm not sure how many plants, I was thinking 4...

I am thinking about trying this method out for my first grow.

I am purchasing:

Rockwool plugs, vermiculite, perlite...

Something for smell... not sure if I should get the ozone thing or charcoal?

Ballast- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=lumatek1000

Bulb- Conversion or a hps and metal halide, what's a better choice?
(Not sure if I should get a conversion bulk, or one of each?)

Reflector- http://http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=38017 (http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=38017)

Growroom- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=sunhutXL

Nutes- http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=novab
(And the vegging one)

A small oscillating fan- Oscillating & Cirruclation Fans - Progressive Growth Hydroponics (http://www.progressive-growth.com/oscillating_fans.php)
(One of these)


Ok, I know very little on this subject, so I'm all for any opinions/ suggestions/ help is greatly appreciated

Is 1000watt too big? What do you think my yeild would be? (I know everyone hates this question, because of all the variables, you can just comment on the max or min or whatever if you want, thanks)

[Cyclonite]

Yea Digitals run MH and HPS....as far as I know Canada and N. California are damn close as far as access and legal status.


Hmm I love hockey and beer...one day perhaps ill settle down in B.C

I dont know much about hempy buckets....With that light the root mass from 1 plant can fill a 5 gallon bucket.

Check out my hydro bio bucket thread and ask questions....I really think its the way to go.

[Youngguns]

Yea Digitals run MH and HPS....as far as I know Canada and N. California are damn close as far as access and legal status.


Hmm I love hockey and beer...one day perhaps ill settle down in B.C

I dont know much about hempy buckets....With that light the root mass from 1 plant can fill a 5 gallon bucket.

Check out my hydro bio bucket thread and ask questions....I really think its the way to go.

The originl creator "hempy" used 2 gallon buckets, and sometimes got over a pound per plant...

I also like the sounds oh the bucket because there are no moving parts, pumps, bubblers etc..
I will check out that thread, however. Thanks.

[latewood]

I believe hempy is a contributor at TYdot. I believe what you are doing will work great. I Love it! It's like homemade "bato" buckets, or, "simplified hydroponics. I have a cd I bought. hydroponics and microfarms. they use this exact method...save the perlite vermiculite, because they currently teach this method in 3rd world impoverished countries, so they use what they can find. sand, cornhusks, bark....etc...and they make their vessels out of pallets, and line it with poly. It is a very successful project.

Anyway. do it! I can't wait to see results. As far as what you have chosen...I cannot , because od dial-up, open all those links. I for one will be glad to help you when you grow, but could you list what you are using, instead of links? and; a copy/paste pik here and there wouldn't hurt either.

As for your light question. I have friends in Kali...That are big in the industry, and through extensive cooperation and testing between them and lumatek; they have come to a couple conclusions...

1st. When first introduced, and even now...I have on reliable source...You cannot use high performance bulbs in digital ballasts. You must use a standard phillips/sylvania, or risk burning up your $125 dollar HPS. bigtime. 600's do not put out what a 1000 watt puts out. Period. They are nice, but the difference in lumens compared to the few extra $$$'s for 1000 watts. Is insignificant.

2nd. As far as heat...contrary to what most people think...digital ballasts are not that much cooler than magnetics, and they are not anywhere in the same class as magnetics when it comes to dependability, or longevity. Besides. It is not like Magnetic ballasts were just lasts years "Fad"...they are the standard by which Digital Ballasts will have to measure themselves against.

Again; Not my opinion. I am relaying facts, sharing info from a "very" informed, and educated person in the Ag/hydro industry.

Peace

[Cyclonite]

Yea....funny thing, I knew there was problems with high performance lamps and digital. With the new lumateks I thought the issue was resolved. Well low and behold my lamp went out after 1200 hrs of use.

I love the lamps with the reflectors built in but I found some for 1/2 the price on e-bay...im going to try these next.

One good thing is the lamps have a 1 year warranty so less shipping there I get a new $100 lamp for free.

LW - I dont have a 1K to measure lumen output on do you have any data with the outputs of 600 digitals vs 1k mag ballasts with the same brand of lamp? Im curious to see how they both measure up, from what I have been informed they are close in lumen outputs and as far as watt/lumen the 600 out performs.

So far though im very happy with my 600 digital...my ballast is a little warm when I run it, my old mag got HOT! So im going to have to disagree about the heat part.

[Cyclonite]

Ok...I found the figures.

Lumatek claims a 30% increase in lumen's...30% of 94,000 for my 600 is 28200

1k runs at 125000 lumen's or so....so 122,200 = Digital 600 125,000= mag 1k

Is that right?

[latewood]

Well. Basically; All you have to do is look up your 600watt bulb...or look on the box. a 1000w sunmaster super HPS is 150,000 lumens. a hortilux is 140,000 lumens. What are you using, and how many lumens. When I compared the difference I found the 600 to cost almost as much as 1000. so even if 600 is more lumens per watt. It is not 150,000 lumens. That is the bottom line. Now digital heat, just may be more of a difference than mags...But on the comparison of heat between a 600, and 1000 is a little more than 'nil...I believe. Anyway. I built from small. The only size I don't have is 600w. LOL 250, 400, 3-1000...LOL

Nice to see you around...And; You can disagree with me anytime.

Life is frickin' great. I just enclosed my seedlings area of the greenhouse. We are testing heating procedures, with the temps expected in the 20's in a couple. I got'er done in just a nick of time. Peace. :)

[latewood]

Ok...I found the figures.

Lumatek claims a 30% increase in lumen's...30% of 94,000 for my 600 is 28200

1k runs at 125000 lumen's or so....so 122,200 = Digital 600 125,000= mag 1k

Is that right?
I missed this before I posted. I don't know. I will say this. As far as I know. a biulb is rated for so many lumens. If a digital can make a bulb produce mor elumens that it is designed for...Well that is news to me... I will try to get some time to check out a couple things, and I plan on calling out to this company, this week..hint hint; So I will ask about what you read. And in closing my friend. I was warned to watch out for they hype. Perhaps when they iron out the bugs...LOL I will be mor einterested in the newer technology. Keep us informed on the success of your new lamp.

and; On the subject of those ???gevita??? bulbs, built in reflector. I always wanted to try those, but didn't have the extra $$$ Great idea, I think! Peace

[Cyclonite]

Yea...gotta check out the built in reflector lamps on e-bay they run around 50 or so. Im gonna give them a shot.....they work great.