The war against Ron Paul has begun!!! [Archive]

sttony

11-16-2007, 10:48 PM

Liberty Dollar office raided (http://www.courierpress.com/news/2007/nov/15/liberty-dollar-office-raided/)

Federal officials raided the group's headquarters early Wednesday morning and seized documents and precious metals...

For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze bank accounts.

(This group is above board and are operating legally. They deal in silver and gold, which the Big Money BANKSTERS don't like.)

Link to press release (http://www.freedomradio.us/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1632&Itemid=)

Oldbay

11-18-2007, 12:41 PM

I am not sure this group was completely honorable. There are a lot of comments from customers who claim were ripped off. I love a good conspiracy theory about a crappy seizure of funds that will be conveniently released after the election, but this only seemed like it was a type of coin, not his coin.

sttony

11-20-2007, 04:38 AM

In Ron Paul Coins, Federal Agents Don't Trust (Washington Post Link (http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/11/16/post_203.html?hpid=topnews))

These coins (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/11/16/PH2007111601160.jpg) are cool, wished I'd know about them before the raid, would have picked-up a couple of the silver Ron Paul coins (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/11/16/PH2007111601160.jpg).

I've known about NORFED for a while. (Went to a seminar when they first started-up.) Their paper bills are so advanced, they use DNA as a conterfeiting deterrent. (I have a couple paper Liberty dollars.)

My "conspiratorial" mind believes these raids to be a direct response to Dr. Ron Pauls sucessful fund raising.

sttony

11-21-2007, 10:43 PM

My "conspiratorial" mind believes these raids to be a direct response to Dr. Ron Pauls sucessful fund raising.

I also "believe" the raids were an attack on his monetery policys. Here's a link to a talk Dr. Ron Paul gave in congress on monetary policy: 04/25/06 Audio: Ron Paul re: Money (http://www.apfn.net/pogo/M001I060425193838-RON-PAUL-MONEY-4-25-06.MP3)

There's more audio and a free book (Secrets of the Federal Reserve) on the web page were I found the Ron Paul audio. Link (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm)

sttony

12-23-2007, 05:44 PM

I seem that I've been blocked from the grow report, along with a few other sites I frequent. Every time I try to connect (for over a week now) I get "connection has timed out" message. The only way I found to connect to the grow report is through an anonymous web serfing client. Can anybody offer any help on this type of problem???

Anyway.... These type posts are probably the reason??? But, if this stuff is factual I think its important to post, so that people are aware. It might just save his life - if people know about it. Or, in case it happens we know who to point the finger at.

Elitists Consider Assassinating Ron Paul

Best-selling author and Bilderberg sleuth Daniel Estulin says he has received information from sources inside the U.S. intelligence community which suggests that people from the highest levels of the U.S. government are considering an assassination attempt against Congressman Ron Paul because they are threatened by his burgeoning popularity. (Link) (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/121407_assassinating_paul.htm)

Click here (http://prisonplanet.com/audio/141207estulin.mp3) to listen to the MP3 interview by Alex Jones with Daniel Estulin.

larz133

12-23-2007, 11:58 PM

Thanks for posts like these and keep 'em coming.Don't listen to the haters.:)

sttony

12-25-2007, 06:49 PM

Thanks for posts like these and keep 'em coming.Don't listen to the haters.:)

:) Thanks for the encouragement. :)

Glenn Beck show scrolls Paul is dead message (at 2:10) during interview with Ron Paul.

Is this a subliminal threat or predictive programing? Or both?

Ron Paul Interviewed By Glenn Beck on CNN 12-18-07 (Link to youtube) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXWW4C2kpE)

CrackaJacka

12-25-2007, 11:49 PM

Now I found something that is very interesting the other day. I go to get some food at a Kroger and after paying for the food the lady hands back my change. Doing as I normally do I count it out to make sure I have the proper change and what should I come across? A 1 dollar bill with "RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT" stamped on the front and back of the bill in red ink! :D And I couldn't help but laugh at this cause it was such a simple way to do ad campaining! :D We all get $1's in our change and if people use these for paying their expenses more people will get them which means more people see the name RON PAUL. Also it had his website www.ronpaul2008.com stamped on. Does anyone else have this too? I got mine at a Kentucky Kroger.

Hy Bri

12-26-2007, 05:15 AM

Cracker, I just ordered one of these stamps and received it in the mail Monday. It cost me 13 dollars and change total. I placed the order Friday, so I think it got to me pretty fast. I purposely have been asking for smaller bills as change since I received it and have been stamping every bill the passes through my hands. The good thing is that there is absolutely nothing illegal about stamping your money.

If anyone wants to purchase their own Ron Paul for President stamp this is where I ordered mine from: http://www.ronpaulstamp.com/ (http://www.ronpaulstamp.com/)

Anyone who purchase one please let me know, I'm curious!

Ron Paul is our only hope.

mattyTHC

12-26-2007, 06:43 AM

While I support Ron Paul whole-heartedly, I think your theories are a bit over the top. Read the text before "Paul is dead, Paul is dead, Paul is dead", and you will see the context. Huckabee was poking fun at people who said he placed a subliminal message of a cross in his latest ad. The whole "Paul is dead" thing is a reference to the conspiracy theory of Paul McCartney having died long ago, and the musician we have grown to know and love is a double. People would argue that a certain Beatles track within the Sgt Pepper album, when played backwards, confirms that "Paul is dead".

Read more here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead)

So maybe it's odd that this scrolled while Ron Paul was being interviewed, but c'mon, let's raise awareness for this wonderful politician through proper campaigning and honest support.

larz133

12-26-2007, 11:04 AM

:) Thanks for the encouragement. :)

Glenn Beck show scrolls Paul is dead message (at 2:10) during interview with Ron Paul.

Is this a subliminal threat or predictive programing? Or both?

Ron Paul Interviewed By Glenn Beck on CNN 12-18-07 (Link to youtube) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZXWW4C2kpE) Man i can't figure Glen Beck out, is this guy an independent or a hater Neo-Con? Keep 'em comming sttony, Ron Paul is making history happen, he is the real deal people, support this guy, give money, time, or just educate yourself on the facts, America needs Ron Paul!

larz133

12-26-2007, 11:06 AM

Hy Bri

12-26-2007, 04:23 PM

They probably will use this against him next, defacing government property, watch.

Then they better start using it against Disney Land , Six Flags, etc. Theme parks have those machines that take your coins and flatten them out and stamp a design of say an animal on them. This process will render the coin useless, and they even charge you for this process. The Ron Paul Stamp does not make your money defaced. "Defacing a bill would be mutilating, painting, or making it unusable in any way. In fact, you can tear a bill in half, but if you still have 51% of it left, you can use it." Even if they do bring these stamped bills up on the media formally known as mainstream, they will quickly find out there are site such as www.wheresgeorge.com that have been operating without harm for years not to mention the logic mentioned above. I will stamp every bill that passes through my hands with the stamp I received!

As far as Paul is Dead, Paul is Dead. I am sure it wasn't a coincidence, of course we noticed the context of the message. Try having Chaney on the media formally known as mainstream and scroll Dick is Dead, Dick is Dead and see what the reaction is.

DrGreen

12-26-2007, 04:58 PM

Its good to see all the support for Ron Paul.

Keep up the infowar.

sttony

12-26-2007, 05:03 PM

They probably will use this against him next, defacing government property, watch.

I can literaly punch in the grow report than go fix a cup of coffee and drink it by the time the page comes up. Even with the anonymous web client it takes forever for the main page to load. Not to mention the thread pages which seem to take even longer (45 min just to get to this post.) or the fact that I have to do the vB coding myself. With out the anonymous web client (http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html) the grow report is unaccessable along with dopefiend.co.uk and stonerforums(?) which i'm not even a member of??? I don't have this problem anywhere else on the web just here. Go figure? I don't know how much more time I want to waste tring to get to the grow report. This may be my last post. I am very sad about it, I guess i'm a casulity of this war...

larz133 that was my sediment too.

MattyTHC - I want you to know this:
In government and big business, nothing happens by accident, if it happens it was meant to. Experts don't make mistakes.
"Paul is dead" was put there for psychological purposes. Don't be a fool and believe those spooks.

Hy Bri

12-26-2007, 05:24 PM

sttony

12-26-2007, 05:57 PM

sttony,

I am wondering if you have a program like Peer Guardian or one like it that blocks ip's while using p2p programs. I find that if I have PG running it will block me from accessing certain websites that that program feels should be blocked.

To answer your question, No, I don't have anything like that running on my machine.

The problem started soon after I started this thread. I've been tring to figure it out by running Spybot - Search & Destroy, Anti Keyloggers, Anti Trojan and anti-virus programs. Nothing seems to help???

The only places on the web that I found (so far) that I can't get to are associated with the grow report???

Hy Bri

12-27-2007, 05:02 AM

Well I hope you can get things sorted out. I'll tell ya though I have written many things on this forum that would make the man want to come knocking on my door and I'm still able to connect fine. I figure if they wanted to they would have already. I feel that one of the many reasons that my life is worth living is the fact that I am able to express myself as I wish and if someone wants to take that from me, among other things, life is just not worth living. That is why when I heard Ron Paul's message I immediately became a passionate supporter of him and his message. He is our only hope and I really dread that this hope may be "removed" for this would start something that nobody wants to deal with. The possibilities are endless in that regard. Paul is our only hope, I really hope people catch on to this and realize he is our only hope out of the Candidates we will have to choose from. I just hope and wish that each week the people who talk "politics with a passion" :hint: :hint: would use the power they have to bring more people into the light and hear the message of freedom that is Ron Paul's. Ron Paul needs to become our President, this is not a joke, not something we should ignore and decide that our voice doesn't or wouldn't matter. If the cards are to fall any other way but in favor of Dr. Paul, we will be doomed to succumb to control, less and less freedom, and eventually we will just become history.

sttony

01-05-2008, 02:02 AM

I just watched a good Ron Paul interview on the PBS show: BILL MOYERS JOURNAL. (Link) (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01042008/watch2.html)

Quote from the show: Ron Paul, "So, whether I have an obstacle with the media or not, which I'm sure I do. And I face up to it, since I look like I'll be excluded, you know, from the Fox debate here-- this weekend."

Was he eluding to the same news from Pothead (120307): Fox news excludes Ron Paul from possible marijuana debate??? (Link) (http://www.thegrowreport.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=1239)
btw. Fits under this thread.

What ever was blocking my access, stoped blocking me the night before last. :)

latewood

01-06-2008, 01:07 PM

Sttony. One thing i can guarantee. No-one here at The Grow report stifled your ability to log on. If there is one thing I know about Zandor. Freedom of speech is foremost and will not be censored. Glad your problem finally resolved. :)

I don't put much stock in spybot S&D..last time I got a virus...it locked spybot down. :(

I have uninstalled all "spyware" from my 'puter. The only protection I have is google toolbar...It blocks pop ups, and I also use ccleaner every time I log off. Get ccleaner.

what value do you have in you login window...in regards to how many minutes?

The Seeker

01-06-2008, 04:59 PM

Didn't Ron Paul used to be in Reagan's administration? The one in the late 70s that included Donald Rumsfeld? So he says he wants to legalise cannabis, does that mean we ignore his guilt by association? If you really want to talk conspiracies you'll have to be prepared to dig a little deeper methinks!

Mrs.Z

01-07-2008, 02:56 AM

The problem started soon after I started this thread. I've been tring to figure it out by running Spybot - Search & Destroy, Anti Keyloggers, Anti Trojan and anti-virus programs. Nothing seems to help???

The only places on the web that I found (so far) that I can't get to are associated with the grow report???

Sttony,

I know Zandor hasn't been around much lately, and I am sorry for that. I don't know what happened to your Computer, but I can guarantee that NO ONE here has done anything to block you!!!!

I am even happier to see that it has resolved itself, Yea! We believe EVERYONE has a right to his/her opinion; we would NEVER block someone for voicing a legitimate thought or opinion; NEVER!!!

Next time, email me or Zandor. I may not know how things run here, but I can get a message to Z when needed!!!

I hope to hear more from you... best of luck...

sttony

01-07-2008, 07:05 PM

Thanks for the concern. :) I love this forum and was really bumed out when it happened.
I figured it was some kind of black op. gov. operation. lol. Ya never know these days.

Mrs.Z

01-08-2008, 05:32 PM

Thanks for the concern. :) I love this forum and was really bumed out when it happened.
I figured it was some kind of black op. gov. operation. lol. Ya never know these days.

Just glad everything is back to normal!!! We enjoy seeing your posts, like everyone else's. Just remember if you think you are having a problem, send us an email... we will get back to you.

sttony

01-11-2008, 03:14 AM

I was watching a Fox news report on the debate in S.C., when the reporter said, "Ron Paul is the whipping boy of the Republican party", then they went to the following snip:

“Let’s put it in perspective. We have five small speedboats attacking the U.S. Navy with a Destroyer? They could take care of those speedboats in about five seconds. And here we’re ready to start World War III over this? … You know there are people in this administration and in Washington, D.C., that are looking for the chance” to bomb Iran.

Romney responded to that claim by saying, “I think Congressman Paul should not be reading as many of Ahmadinejad’s press releases.”

I tried to find the clip at Fox news but all I could find was this written report on the debate. (Link) (http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/10/gop-candidates-debate-in-strategic-state-of-south-carolina/)