1st Post - Newbie Question

[Hughes DePayne]

1st Post Alert (you've been warned):

My question is: would the spawning of a grain-loving cubensis strain onto a tryptamine-bearing substrate have any quantitative effect on the alkaloid content of the resulting fruit bodies? Say - for instance - that - using any basic straw tek - an intrepid soul (SWIM, of course), substituted Phalaris Aquatica AQ1 (a tryptamine-bearing reed/canary grass strain) for the wheat straw, or w/e. Would the resulting cubensis shrooms have any chance of bearing a higher level of the desirable alkaloids, due to the pre-existence of the tryp's in the substrate? Or is the tryptamine production/generation (within the shroom/fruit) independent of the substrate constituent?

I am confoosed about the precise mechanism of the things - I mean, afaik, it's not as if you can just add various ingredients to a tek and consequently affect other variables (such as the shroom flavor - or else they'd all taste like brown rice and clay! - still...chocolate shrooms would be kinda cool...hmmm...)

Anyway, just a long-standing curiosity of mine - thanks in advance for any thoughts you can share :)

[shamanimal]

yo there. it says in paul stamets mushrooms of the world book that. " gartz(1989) determined that psilocin levels of flushes were naturally low(0.1%) from a sterilized mixture of cow dung and rice(2:1), but could be raised up to 3.3% with the addition of only 25 milligrams of tryptamine into 10 grams of substrate. furthermore, his study showed that at least 22% of psilocybin was derived from the introduced radioactivley tagged tryptamine. this study reinforces the concept that substrate composition affects potency." it also states earlier in the book that certain tryptamine-producing grasses provide the perfect habitats for certain psilocybes... and gartz' study proves it. . you could grow yourself some powerful shrooms....

[Scentless Apprentice]

Good idea dude!

[shamanimal]

paul stamets even writes that canary(phalaris) grasses, known for their high DMT content might make excellent companions for the co-culture of psilocubes. cool

[sancho23]

that swim fella is one wild dude!

[Hughes DePayne]

Thanks shamanimal - sweet to have an idea (even pre-) corroborated by such a source! In my own defense - I *did* RTFM..I swear. I only have the Stamets/Chilton's _Cultivator_ in print - and there was nothing I could find, therein (the index to that book is just so weak...I really need an e-version).

I am wary of using garden variety canary; or, like, just reaping a bag full of phound phalaris in the wilderness, because I am uncertain as to how the shrooms might concentrate any gramine levels, if I picked the wrong grass strain...you can either be bold or old, right? And I don't know wtf gramine would do to a human, tbh. I did find Italian AQ1 online at USD$6 for a potted plant that will go to 5' - from which the stuff could be cloned throughout the neighborhood parks with relative ease :)

I have also seen that AQ1 has "seedling vigor issues". I'll have to find a...uh...cool way to ask my wild bud Swim about "seedling vigor", ASAP.

And it would just be the same psilo's in the shrooms anyway, I think...nothing new or diff - just stronger? End of the day, it might be easier to just tack on a 1/2 gram to one's dose...