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pete21
10-02-2008, 03:08 AM
I finally got around to trying to make a tea from the kratom I bought from sage wisdom. I prepared it as they suggested. I used three tablespoons of dried crushed leaves and stems, turns out to be about 11 grams.

I cooked it in a cup of water, drained and repeated twice. The three cups of liquid I cooked down to just under a half a cup of tea. They say a light dose is 2-6 grams, I drank about 3 grams worth, I'd guess.

The taste was pretty much as bad as everyone says. But I got it down in 2-3 gulps and a bit of milk chased the taste away. I started feeling the effects pretty quickly. I had an empty stomach. My skin felt a bit cold, otherwise there was no physical changes. I felt a bit clumsier than normal, but had no trouble moving about. It peaked maybe 90 minutes in and had pretty much worn off after about 3 hours.

I'd put the effect somewhere between mild pot and mild mushrooms. Kinda fun, certainly not at all unpleasant. Certainly if you are out of weed, or can't smoke, this might be a reasonable substitute. Scratches a similar itch. Of course I was also vaping a bit of herb as well.

But all in all pretty good. I look forward to trying it again. I'll want to try a heavier dose, but this was very reasonable. If anything, I probably would have taken another similar sized dose as it was wearing off, rather than double-up the dose. I was fairly satisfied with the effects where they were, especially for a first try.

BronzeApprentice
10-02-2008, 03:29 AM
I didn't think that would actually work. Are you going to try a higher dose next time? Would adding a cinnamon stick and honey make it better?

pete21
10-02-2008, 12:25 PM
One of the reasons that I finally decided to try the kratom tea is I've a friend I play cards with who had to give up the herb because of drug-testing at work. He's substituted alcohol with less than stellar results, as booze is such a poor substitute (as we all know).

Anyway, I'm hoping this might help fill that gap for him and I'm enjoying it so far myself, although I can have some herb and so I do. So if I have it tonight I'll match wahtever amount my friend takes, but start with what I had my first time.

According to the reports it is more of a sedative in larger doses. That's rarely what I'm after, I can realistically see myself taking more as it wears off to dose longer rather than trying to go heavier.

Sage wisdom was pretty expensive, I think $40 per OZ, which is probably about 8 light doses. Not bad, but a bit high for a legal herb. I've seen it much cheaper elsewhere, but am not sure about the quality. If anyone knows a good, cheap source and about the viability of growing it, I'd love to hear about it.

Defenderalex1
10-06-2008, 05:10 PM
Thanks for the info. That gives me a better idea what kratom is.


dried herbs link grasscity
http://www.grasscity.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/SJV-Grasscity-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewStandardCatalog-Browse?CatalogCategoryID=sifAqAHA9r0AAAET9qYdTLpm

herbal extract link
http://www.grasscity.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/SJV-Grasscity-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewStandardCatalog-Browse?CatalogCategoryID=g1zAqAHA9rsAAAET9qYdTLpm

they have peyote growkit and other stuff but they don't ship that stuff to the USA grrrrrrrr:mad:

The algerian herbal blend has interesting ingredients, but most of the herbal smoke blends are kind of bunk. I have only tried the algerian blend, and of course the salvia dried leaves and 5x(not flavored).

pete21
10-07-2008, 03:22 PM
So all the guys I play cards with tried it last week. The dose was too mild, most reported they didn't feel anything or nothing especially noticeable. On the other hand, we had a very fun and social evening, so it didn't hurt! My friend was intrigued enough to want to get some with my next order.

I'm interested in the extracts. You only get about 8 light doses from an OZ of dried leaves, and they are a bit of bother to prepare. I've seen Kratom 15x extract powder, that seems to be the most common. I've also seen a liquid, that seems to be much stronger. Any suggestions?

A lot of it also has to do with the state of your stomach when you take it. On an empty stomach, it has a much more noticeable effect. When we had it at 8pm, maybe 90 minutes after most of us had eaten dinner, the effect was much lighter.

But it has been, so far, the fun light social thing I've been looking for, especially for my friends who must not imbibe at this time because of work.

Nev039
10-07-2008, 05:19 PM
I've also been curious about kratom for a while now and just recently got around to actually trying it. I got mine from www.everyonedoesit.com, I got the Powdered Thai Kratom, 25 grams for £8.99 but they also 10 grams for £4.99, 50 for £14.99 and 100 for £24.99.
I didn't make tea with it because as it was the first time i was eager to experience its effects, I just weighed out 5grams and dumped it into a glass of orange juice, stirred it around and downed it, it wasn't very pleasant. None the less after about half an hour I noticed something, after another half hour the effects still seemed quite mild so I took another two grams using the same method as before bringing the totalto seven grams. this seemed to do it and I spent a very comfortable two to three hours (can't remember the exact duration) on the sofa chilling to some good music. It is a very sedating and warm buzz and as has been mentioned before there is a certain pot like feel to it.
I will be trying a similar dose again soon but taken all at once and as a tea as I have decided that drinking a foul tasting liquid is deffinitely preferable to swallowing a foul tasting powder. Good luck with your experiments and peace to you all.

pete21
10-07-2008, 05:22 PM
went a bit crazy, but here's what I ordered:

Kratom Standardized 15x Extract - 48G

Sinicuichi 25:1 Standardized Resin

Blue Lily of the Nile 15x Flower Resin

Liquid Extract - Kava Kava (1oz)

Liquid Extract - Lotus Plumule (1oz)

Elixir - HerbSpirits Kava 1:1 (1 oz)

Coming from IAmShaman Shop, who I have not used before. I'll report back on how it all goes...

Defenderalex1
10-07-2008, 08:59 PM
Wow lol. I'm glad it's you pete, so we can get some more good trip reports. Thanks man.:)

garion333
10-10-2008, 11:28 PM
Mmmmm, I do enjoy kava. Just don't mix it with alcohol. All kava-related fatalities have been as a result of combining with alcohol (which led to the whole toxic liver warning).

I have a bag of kratom that I got from Sage Wisdom just sitting in a drawer. I've had it for a while now, I just haven't gotten around to it (as strange as that sounds). I'm actually interested in the more sedative side, so I will definitely report back when I give it a fair shake (i.e. a strong dose).

I just don't know if I have enough to try it to see how I react and then make a larger dose. We'll see.

Nev039
10-13-2008, 02:09 PM
Hi, I recently tryed some of my stash of kratom again, but this time made a tea with 7 grams of it like I said I would and to be honest I wouldn't recommend the tea method, I thought it would be better than swallowing powdered leaf but making tea makes the taste worse in my opinion and takes a lot of time. I noticed no difference in effects from just swallowing the powder so I will just stick to that in the future, its quicker and more pleasant. Peace.

Anzie Corgan
10-14-2008, 04:31 AM
All I know is that smoking the dried leaf is pointless. As is vaping it, at least for me. I even through it in the Volcano with some bud to make the vape taste better and other then the normal high I didn't experience anything. However after Pete's account I might go ahead and give it a try again but this time make some crystal light with the extract.

VictoriaPandora
10-15-2008, 02:41 PM
http://ilumina.home.att.net/
This is where I get my Kratom. It's nice and clean. I just chew it straight. Believe me, it's the best way. I quite enjoy the taste, although the times I have tried to make tea it's been way too bitter.

It does have a sedative effect at higher doses but be careful, it can also act as a purging agent.