Magic mushrooms to be banned in Holland

[Son of Gonzo]

Yep. Thats it guys, apparently the health minister has decided and will announce it publically later this week.

Real shame to put these back into the hands of criminals.

[Pothead]

do you know when it will take effect?

peace

[Son of Gonzo]

Not sure, but i'd imagine Max Freakout will know...

[babylon_n_ting]

Yep. Thats it guys, apparently the health minister has decided and will announce it publically later this week.

Real shame to put these back into the hands of criminals.

Where did you read this? I was in Amsterdam at the weekend and spoke to smart shop owners who said this would only apply to dry shrooms.

[Son of Gonzo]

check google news, its not been officially announced yet but apparently he's decided to ban them

[queerninja]

This was copied from:
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2007/10/minister_to_ban_magic_mushroom.php

Minister to ban magic mushroom sales
Wednesday 10 October 2007

Health minister Ab Klink is preparing to ban the sale of hallucinogenic mushrooms following a string of incidents involving foreign tourists, the AD newspaper reports on Wednesday.


Sources told the paper that a final decision will be taken this week. A majority of MPs have already called for a ban. The sale of dried mushrooms is illegal under the opium laws but fresh mushrooms are widely available at so-called smart shops.

According to Amsterdam health service figures, ambulances were called out to deal with mushroom-takers 128 times last year.

I wonder how many times ambulances were called for booze related inicdents. Assholes. Regulate it better, and don't sell em to kids.

[Oldbay]

128 times in a year can't possibly hold a candle to the drunkards. Regulate indeed. It would be interesting to know how many of those were over the age of 21, or 18 or whatever. Funny how they leave out the facts that would make or an objective debate and solution. So now, kids will get mushrooms made by who knows what and in no known dosage. Granted, My country needs to get a few things straight in the drug policy arena, but I thought they were the example of reasonable legislature.

[Pothead]

1 every 3 days:eek:

why not just up the age limit rather than banning them? min age 21 or 25 with some sort of id needed


peace

[queerninja]

Here's another news story on it. Interestingly, the reporters email is at the bottom for people to get in touch with them. Maybe we should talk to these people and spread some REAL information towards them.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=a7foG.ezGlcA&refer=europe

[Oldbay]

Do you think they would mind if we used them here :D

[queerninja]

Do you think they would mind if we used them here :D

hehehehe....Let's do it :)

[crowley666]

What winds me up about the Bloomsburg "news story" is how did they track down this guy? And what are the chances that all in his group had the same nightmare of a time......highly unlikely all round......all sounds rather suspect to me and fictititious.

[Son of Gonzo]

Good (ish) news people.

A guy I know who has a mushroom-centred business in Holland sent me this email:


Well... there was 1 source from a journalist who said that he heard
from reliable sources that itll be illegal soon. Now everyone believes
that and everyone thinks its gonna be illegal.
Apart from that 1 source, noone has any reliable information outside
of the Ministry.

In case shrooms become banned, it would take at least 6 weeks for that
law to take effect.


shroom on,
__________________

[Son of Gonzo]

actually, scratch that. he just sent me an update. yep, they are definetly going to be made illegal, and very soon. :(

Sad day for the Dutch Government. Christian Democrats, who the fuck would have thunk it?

[Pothead]

so they are going to be banned in all ways?:mad::(:mad:

if/when you find out when please post,


the way amsterdam is going it wont be worth going in ten years time:mad: no shrooms, only smoke behind screens, no new coffee shops etc etc what next?


peace

[Son of Gonzo]

John Sinclair should bust through their windows... Christian Democrats... What the hell is that? A paradox???

[max_freakout]

it seems pretty official.....


128 ambulance calls for mushrooms last year, compared with 2500 for alcohol :confused:

[Son of Gonzo]

shit man thats dark, i hate the image of these mushrooms being pushed into the hands of dealers and criminals

are spores etc. gonna be banned?

[Pothead]

so its ok to ban something that happens once every 3 days but dont ban somthing that happens 7 times a day :eek::eek::eek::eek:


peace

[queerninja]

it seems pretty official.....


128 ambulance calls for mushrooms last year, compared with 2500 for alcohol :confused:

Well, I guess it's a further reinforcement of what we all about politicians, it doesn't matter about what's true for these people, they rule with fear and prejudice.

[Ostritt]

Hi everyone, this is Ali, P-body's brother. Max mentioned my novel in the last podcast. I'm sending him a copy of the manuscript next week so hopefully you'll be hearing more about it soon. It's called Beyond the Basin, I forgot to mention that in my email.

It's really sad what's happening in Holland. From what I've read, most of the people involved in these incidents had a history of mental illness or combined mushrooms with alcohol and other consciousness-dulling substances. Seems it's ok for their sacrament to kill thousands, but when a few ignorant people abuse ours it warrants outright prohibition. I think the best way for entheogen users to fight back is to keep consuming, keep exploring and keep growing. They will never win. Whatever it takes, I'm going to keep treading those mysterious waters with respect, caution and above all love. Peace!

[Greenking]

It seems the "bad trips" are out weighing the positive ones. It doesn’t sound good. If worst comes to worst they should make you take some sort of psych test, or keep it away from anyone under 25 f*k it, because psychedelics are not for everyone. The argument that they are not too toxic on your body is good but I think focusing on the psych part of the mushrooms would be best. Somehow adopting tighter rules. This spiritual mushroom should not be confined cuz of naive people.

It’s a shame these events happened.

[queerninja]

Well, with people like this taking shrooms in amsterdam, it's no wonder the stiffs want them banned:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/193136/magic_mushrooms_in_amsterdam/

The tripper has eaten 2 packs of shrooms and is sitting with beer drinking lads on a stag weekend. Yes, set and setting and mood taken care of then, bring on the dissolution of the universe and the mind-being of god.

[The Salvia Kid]

He looked like he was quite enjoying it.

[Steeldiehard]

Man he was totally tripping in that video! It does look like he took too much though for being out in public...probably little he could do to care for himself without his friends. What do ya'll think?

Steel

[earthmansurfer]

I know it's just a "coincidence" but isn't it a bit odd that the results from the psilocybin study on terminal cancer patients was showing such good results?

[Entheogenic Scientist]

Is the ban in place yet? Are shrooms still on sale in Holland and if so for how long?

[max_freakout]

Its still business as usual for the smartshops, its going to be debated in Dutch parliament in March AFAIK