Envirolite lighting

[Useless]

These bulbs seems to be working excellent. Highly recommend for all closet growers.

[drgonzo2012]

Same here, envirolites have done me proud. I'm currently harvesting my first grow, dealers be gone!

[daytripper]

which envirolite are you using? and setup?

[Useless]

which envirolite are you using? and setup?

200 watt 6400k - white/blue 220/240v 50/69Hz E40

[cyberia2012]

Hello Useless! Good luck to you with your grow :)

I have used enviros and am also ready to harvest. I think that next grow I want to use enviros for vegging and then swap to a 400w or 600w HPS for flowering. I hear that the yield is much greater with HPS, and possibly my plants would not have stretched as much in flower with the HPS.

I think if a grower can control the heat in the grow space, then get an HPS.

That said, I sampled a bud with 3 weeks to go and it got me very high :)

[Useless]

Hello Useless! Good luck to you with your grow :)

I have used enviros and am also ready to harvest. I think that next grow I want to use enviros for vegging and then swap to a 400w or 600w HPS for flowering. I hear that the yield is much greater with HPS, and possibly my plants would not have stretched as much in flower with the HPS.

I think if a grower can control the heat in the grow space, then get an HPS.

That said, I sampled a bud with 3 weeks to go and it got me very high :)

Sure HPS is better for flowering but needs pretty big setup for moving the heat away. In small apartment like I live in it`s allmost impossible. HID lamps have still greater penetration trough plants but the excessive heat reduces your crop greatly makes growing allmost impossible. And HID lamps have so (I) intense light so they shine through out of smalles hole so it`s might be easily seen by outsiders of your apartment and that you dont want. But like you said if you can control your heat then go for HPS for flowering.

[cyberia2012]

I agree completely Useless :) That's the reasons I went for Envirolite to, and I am very happy with the results.

Your plants look great! Which strain/s are you growing?

[Useless]

In pictures I use Nirvana Shop`s Pure power plant so nothing fancy but they do the trick. Now it seems I will invest in my next project something high quality seeds.

[cyberia2012]

I have the Himalaya Gold just finishing, and think I'm going to go for a pure indica next time over. Its a great feeling at the end of my first grow, and kind of a relief as well :D I had the feeling that at any point something could screw it all to hell! But, with some help here I am.

Growing in soil for now and think after a coupld more grows I will start with a simple hydro, and a hps light to. Are you growing in soil as well?

[Useless]

It is allways a great feeling after a struggle when you succeed and it keeps you going. I do grow in soil but Im very intresested growing in hydro.

Just wondering if I gona flower with Envirolites then how tall I should veg my plants. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

[cyberia2012]

I'm sure it depends on each plant, but mine went in to flower at 14" and there'll be finishing at around 36". For the first 3 weeks in flowering I though they might get to big for the grow tent :eek: I posted a pic of the full size height and Zandor thinks it could be the lights making the stretch, which feels right as the plants started out in flower quite bushed out then went vertical!

I thinking of an indica to make use of the horizontal space I have and also the Envirolites are'nt so penetrating so maybe a bushier plant would be better for this. But, I'm stronlgy leaning to HPS.

Also in small space I see some poeple on here discussing the Low Ryder strain which can stay quite short. I'm sure you'll get good advice here, coz the people are very nice :)

[Useless]

I decided to flower with two 200 W Envirolite 2700K Red lamps. Lets see how they works through this robust plants.

I`m going to veg them 2 or 3 weeks before going to 12/12 because I`m desperate for weed. Ugly fan leafs might be coused by many things bad nutriens, overwatering (CLASSIC!), smoking cigarettes in the same room etc..

In pics they are going on day 25 or so and been under Envirolite 200 W 6400K white/blue. Light been on 21/3.

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[cyberia2012]

Looking nice Useless! What are you feeding the plants? Can you tell me some more information to, like pH and how you are ventilating etc?

[Useless]

I have been feeding them Substral it`s kind a of "supermarket" nutrient you might know if you live in europe. But this day on I`m gona give them General Hydroponics. I ventilate the air with this small table fan but I´m gona put some more all over place. Fresh air never hurts.
Soil is about 70% cheap gardening soil with low nutriens and 30% perlite. I might been fucked up Ph of the water when you look at the fan leafs who knows, but they should be fine.

[cyberia2012]

Thank you Useless and please take more shots over the weeks. Good luck!

[Useless]

!!!!!!!!ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!

Zandor has raised a interesting point couple of times which troubles me alot about CO2 and Compact Fluorescent Lights.
Apparenly Compact Fluorescent Lights reduces CO2 emission in the air, actually they are made for that.
Little did I knew this fact when I walked out of my local
hydroponics store big smile on my face and these new wonderful cfl lamps on my backback.
What I mean is if I keep using these lamps till the end and I will because I allready bought them then I might end up having more sticks and leafs then bud, AGAIN!
I cant beleave this. Why didnt I bought cooltube, UFO fan and some pipe like all the others.
Maybe next time I try to flower my plants with nice set up of candles?

But it aint over yet. IT AINT OVER YET!

[Oldbay]

I don't want to speak for Z, but what I think he was saying is that if you are not using HID lighting and a fair amount of it, then it is something of a waste to add additional C02 as not enough photosynthesis conversion takes place under the limited lighting to benefit from the additional C02 in the mix.

[Oldbay]

Not all HPS lights are 1000 watts. You can still get the benefits of HPS without burning out the local power plant. Also Lumens vs watts (as far as heat goes) HPS is actually more efficient. I'm not bashing your enviro-lights, in fact I am actually impressed at the nice short squat plants you have under them, just wanted to make sure you had some additional info.

If you look here http://thegrowreport.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=4044
This was done with only 100 watts of HPS (ballast outside of cab) and only cooled by a cheap CPU fan that is blowing through a cheap home made carbon scrubber. The cabinet is only 30 inches high, 19 inches wide and 10 inches deep. The light was also very cheap as it was a converted security light. (cash and carry from the big box hardware store for those who don't have the luxury of a hydro shop near by)

Keep up the great work, and looking forward to the flowering show.

Sure HPS is better for flowering but needs pretty big setup for moving the heat away. In small apartment like I live in it`s allmost impossible. HID lamps have still greater penetration trough plants but the excessive heat reduces your crop greatly makes growing allmost impossible. And HID lamps have so (I) intense light so they shine through out of smalles hole so it`s might be easily seen by outsiders of your apartment and that you dont want. But like you said if you can control your heat then go for HPS for flowering.

[Useless]

You are absolutely right there Oldbay, not all HPS are 1000W. And your CRAZY looking plants made me think about smaller HPS products. It has never occured my mind to use so small HPS like 100 W. Thank you very much for that!
And for everybody to know there I am not trying to praise or sell these bulbs just try to make conversation out of these bulbs. Becouse all the information you get from
these products is from manufacturers and not from growers. Thats the reason for this thread. But it seems like not many people know how these work in action.

SO FEEL FREE TO COMMENT!

[Oldbay]

Glad you liked them useless, and I am not trying to make you change things around, just putting out options. I've seen nice cabinet grows with floros as well.

[Zandor]

For that setup you have you may want to look at a 600w MH/HPS digital ballast. After the shock of the cost pick up a cool tube and a good vortex style fan to vent out the heat and you will be fine.

The 600w gives plenty of lumen's and you can use enhanced CO² with out the heat of other transformers. The cost saving in your power bill will save you money with in the first year.

Plus the extra amount of product you will have in the end will also add up to some real savings.

Those lights are good for cloning and maybe even one person who does not require much product and are way better then using a CFL bulb that is for sure.

I too am looking to pick one up for cloning as I don't have the room for the 48" bulb set I am using now.

They do have a place in your garden still I would think.

Happy growing

Peace

Z

[Useless]

That was a very clear opinion there Z. What really caught up my eye was that thing about the transformers.
I might have to give up this big dream I have about these products I use these days. Time will show it.
There will be no pictures from healty plants for quite sometime becouse have done something wrong with them.
And by listening to The Growreports I have done alot wrong. Maybe I post some pictures in to the Sickroom after
I have transplanted them and have seen how they react to that. But all in all they aint so bad afterall.

Sincerely Useless