View Full Version : Get more thc out of each hit this way?
citizen5
08-26-2008, 02:39 AM
Ok I saw this advertisement in High Times and had to check out their website, http://www.smokemiser.com I guess the idea is that you only absorb 5% of the thc in each breath and then release the rest into the air. This machine is basically a bread bag you breathe your exaust into and then keep re-inhaleing your thc laden breath until you milk it for every last bit of thc. I'm not sure what they charge but I'm curious if anyone out there uses some kind of rebreathing technique to stretch their stash? I can't toke at the moment but it seems like you would only get a headache? Any thoughts?
Lethal_Hobo
08-26-2008, 10:53 AM
I think that would work... I dont see myself keeping a bag to breathe in and out of though, I find holding it in 5 or more seconds after finishing a hit usually increases my high pretty noticably.
If you want to get the most of your bud, you'll want to concider getting a good vaporizer
Stoney
08-26-2008, 02:01 PM
I can't see any info about CO2 buildup. Theoretically one could rebreath a volcano bag to get a similar effect. But then you would have to worry about CO2 buildup. Inhaled air contains 0.04 % CO2 while exhaled air contains 5%. So even rebreathing once gives you a hundredfold concentration of CO2 (if I did the maths right). Here is a link about CO2 toxicity. (http://www.inspect-ny.com/hazmat/CO2gashaz.htm) According to that page CO2 is directly toxic beyond 5%. I tried this once and eventually my lungs and throat started to hurt, so it's not advisable. If I'm right about this then it applies to nitrous and any other inhaled substances. Anyone know more about this type of thing?
But this brings up an interesting issue, specially if you use a vaporizer. A vaporizer hit is a very concentrated hit, only air and active ingredients. So imagine how much active ingredients you are wasting when you exhale 95% of it! When smoking it's not the same since a lot of the active ingredients are lost on combustion.
For me what works best is to take a very small hit of vapor, hold it as long as possible and "dilute" it with regular air as needed. A simple technique that is very efficient.
Ostritt
08-26-2008, 05:07 PM
Yep I agree, taking small sucks of vapor and topping up with air is a good method. If I'm right about this then it applies to nitrous and any other inhaled substances. Interesting, I am a big nitrous fan and used to sell it at parties and raves, I find it's best to supplement your nitrous with oxygen and keep breathing till you can't... I've never felt any ill effects :rolleyes: but then again who knows? Maybe holding a balloon for ages means you're just breathing C02 after a while.
pete21
08-26-2008, 05:45 PM
Yep I agree, taking small sucks of vapor and topping up with air is a good method.
I'll third that. Getting my friends who are smokers to not take such big hits is a bit tough. But I firmly believe, from thousands of inhalation tests :p that a small amount of vapor in a large breath is the way to go.
That burning joint creates bad habits, because it says "hurry up, I'm burning!" while vapor in a volcano bag says "it's cool, I'm here when you're ready." Then it says "I'm getting kinda brown, maybe you should change me." :rolleyes:
Ostritt
08-26-2008, 06:21 PM
Haha :D Sometimes mine says... sell things in your house and buy me accessories... I tell it there aren't that many accessories to get but it just doesn't care. It's watching me as I type this. :(
shockrocket
08-27-2008, 07:00 AM
In my final year of my bachelors degree I did an ethnography on a Rasta group here in South Africa. They taught me this great technique to get more out of each hit. When you exhale the smoke/vapour, exhale through the nose. The nose is dense with blood vessels which helps with absorbing substances into the bloodstream much quicker. So when you exhale through the nose you're getting more THC into your system than through inhalation alone.
Pothead
08-27-2008, 07:38 AM
some good points raised there, i do remember on 1 or 2 occasions on the dopecast the dopefiend talking about re inhaling after reading a listeners email, if i remember correctly what one listener did was to inhale then exhale into a bag and then re inhale it untill it had all been used, i think it would be ok if you was to take the odd breath in between to make sure your getting enough oxygen, having said that you would probably only re inhale it 2-4 times before moving on anyway
peace
pete21
08-27-2008, 04:32 PM
When you exhale the smoke/vapour, exhale through the nose. The nose is dense with blood vessels which helps with absorbing substances into the bloodstream much quicker. So when you exhale through the nose you're getting more THC into your system than through inhalation alone.
That sounds like great advice. It is too harsh with smoke, but perfect for vapor. Thanks, I'll try that ... immediately! :D
BlackBeauty
08-28-2008, 11:42 AM
Great tip shockrocket (yes, still like ya nick) - am also going to fill a bag now and try it!
Anzie Corgan
08-28-2008, 04:22 PM
I find it funny that with nitrous and with that smoke miser that some people would try to deprive themselves of oxygen. I understand it adds to the effect because your depriving your body of oxygen but oxygen in itself gets you high. For me deep breathing before taking a hit of the Volcano bag gets me even higher.
Depriving myself of oxygen does take me back to the days of grav bongs though. I used to try to take about what seemed like two lung fulls of grav-ed smoke which usually caused me to hit the floor before I even exhaled. Back in the day it brought on a lot of vivid visual hallucinations.
I do agree with Pete about breathing out the nose though. I think personally that's the best way to savor the taste as well as maximize your high. Back in the day me and my friends used to shot gun blunts into each others face via a cardboard tube and we'd inhale and exhale through our noses. It stung and was slightly stupid but it got us amazingly blazed.
sancho23
08-28-2008, 04:24 PM
Does it also say "buy now, and we'll send you TWO for the price of ONE! A $19 value, YOURS if you act NOW!!!"
Sounds like yet another marketing scheme to me, but hey, to each his own!
Anzie Corgan
08-28-2008, 04:27 PM
btw most of the advertisments in High Times are completely bogus. I have yet to see more then a few legitimate products advertised in their magazine.
I keep seeing a funny ad selling pills that will help you dream.
I think the ad sayed something like:
"Want to have dreams again?
EASY quit smoking weed OR
send me money for these pills!!!"
I just got such a laugh off of it that I even showed my girlfriend.
hashshashin
09-06-2008, 04:47 PM
I have been wondering if inhaling quick and brief or slow and drawn out while smoking makes any difference on the high. Is it more efficient one way or the other, or does it even make a difference?
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