Will there be another false flag attack before the election?

[Ostritt]

Hey everyone, when I was in Peru someone told me this interesting story about some friends of theirs who were driving in New Zealand. They saw this sign by the side of the road that said "Fortune Teller next turn" or something. It was in the middle of nowhere so they thought it was quite weird and stopped to check it out. The fortune teller told them that she only put up the sign when she felt that the people going past her place needed to hear a message, and the message she told them was the Bush is going to set up another false flag attack right before the election, using a dirty bomb in a major city so that he can declare martial law. Thought it sounded interesting, it wouldn't surprise me. So, what does everyone else think?

Wow, googled this topic and found this: http://pacificfreepress.com/content/view/2774/1/

Could be happening in the next 5 days... or not.

[vince noir rocknroll star]

this has been on the cards since the 9/11 attacks and i would expect to see this happen before nov 08 ...mainly as i have stated in another thread because bush has already put in place legislation that would allow him a third term in office if such an attack does take place ..also allowing him to instigate martial law ...everything happens for a reason so they say .

[sancho23]

yeah, who knows? speculation can only take us so far. I think if it does happen, a lot of people will cry foul, and get rounded up. I'm not sure either way though, really, I mean, I still have a feeling that they just can't pull it off. Is it possible that it's all bluff because they really still haven't gotten US under control yet enough to pull some bullshit like this!?!?

Is it possible that, maybe, this is all a warm up exercise to determine early where resistance would come from if/when they ARE ready? And to turn the heat up now, then let it cool down for a decade or so, and then when they're ready, the infrastructure will be in place. . .I'm just not sure it could happen like that, although, Americans are pretty fucking dumb on the average considering they believe most of the shit they see on the television.

If I could sell a pita bread with a spot that looked like Buddha on it for every time some bullshit was peddled on tv and believed to be true. . .well, you know the rest.

In any event, let's say this happens and martial law is declared: What the hell is anyone gonna do anyway?

My advice would be to keep your mouth shut, your head low, struggle hard with family to get through the rough times, and steel up your soul, because it's gonna be a tough battle for independence once the restrictions eventually do lift! It would require all of us evolutionaries to really increase the amplitude of energy from the other side. . ."we fight not against flesh and blood, but powers and principalities. . ."

And just for the record, I voted that Jack Fucking Bauer will come save the day, albeit probably drunkenly or at the least hungover(rock on Kiefer!), but he'll kick some ass!

[pete21]

To me, this thread is "a bummer" and a poor use of karma, energy and intellect.

[garion333]

I'm gonna have to go with: not very likely.

It just doesn't make sense. Even if Bush wanted to hold onto power, I don't believe this would work.

[Defenderalex1]

My want to click on the 24 reference(even though i don't watch it) Made me think of the smoke and mirrors that is the whole damn thing... Sooo much corruption. I hate fox news.:mad:

I would like to line those people up in front of the camera with some beanbag rounds BAM BAM BAM

not likely... but i wonder what those wriggling writhing so called democrat or republican fatcats are doing hiding from the sunlight in their slimmy caves... JK JK i know they have mansions, multiple mantions each

[Ostritt]

To me, this thread is "a bummer" and a poor use of karma, energy and intellect.

Really? I don't believe in Karma. Perhaps it's just that you haven't learned to consider something without internalising it. I tend to think that if you had, no matter what I wrote the thread on it wouldn't have made you feel uncomfortable...

The alternative would be to resist these ideas altogether, which will just create shadows and they will never go away. I prefer to say bring it the fuck on, we'll take it as it comes.

I think Jack Bauer and John Locke will team up, maybe building some kind of time machine and going back to torture Bush as a child. Hey, sometimes that's what it takes.

[pete21]

Really? I don't believe in Karma. Perhaps it's just that you haven't learned to consider something without internalising it. I tend to think that if you had, no matter what I wrote the thread on it wouldn't have made you feel uncomfortable...

It isn't the power of this idea that makes me uncomfortable, it is the banality. I'm happy to play in the abstract, I just don't see an upside to this sort of speculation.

[Ostritt]

It isn't the power of this idea that makes me uncomfortable, it is the banality. I'm happy to play in the abstract, I just don't see an upside to this sort of speculation.

Ok fair enough, I agree that dwelling on it and delving into conspiracy theory isn't healthy or productive. However, the thread is a bit tongue in cheek, it's not intented as a serious forum for debate, rather just a bit of a verbal kick-about. I don't think it's going to happen, but if it does then at least we can say "eh, see? The GR knows all."

Sometimes I think these ideas are planted by the very people who are supposed to perpetrate them to sow fear. The psychic in the story might have worked for the CIA... in any case I think the important thing is not to stress about it, whatever happens will happen and as healthy psychonauts maybe we'll relish the opportunity to define ourselves against it.

[itchyboy1]

I agree with you Pete, a total waste of time to get into this kind of nonsense. Non-productive fantastical fetid fecal flatulence. You may as well be masturbating Ostritt rather than pollute our memespace with that kind of crap

[VictoriaPandora]

I agree with you Pete, a total waste of time to get into this kind of nonsense. Non-productive fantastical fetid fecal flatulence. You may as well be masturbating Ostritt rather than pollute our memespace with that kind of crap

Well, itchy... time to wake up and smell the coffee boy. if you are not seeing the signs then consider drinking some of it while you're whiffing.

That said, who are you to dictate what subjects are worthwhile for this "memespace?" Or is that just YOU jacking offfffff to how many weird F words you can fit into one run on sentence?

[itchyboy1]

Fair enough, that was too harsh. No offence Ostritt. Had a few fermented fizzy fluids flowing, forgive my fatuous frivolities. BTW enjoyed your lonesome boatman at the end of the talk in Iquitos, lovely tone off that whistle man!
Vic you can keep your coffee ta, no time to worry about things which may or may not happen such as what mr bush is gonna do next, is putin gonna start ww3, do we all turn into intelligent plasma on 21/12/2012, etc.

[vince noir rocknroll star]

now theres an image i need to expel from my mind :eek:

[en_lasnuves]

delving into conspiracy theory, far from señor...didnt you just read that Bush has given himself the right to be our president forever, we have i think taken a step away from conspiracy when an actual excecutive order has been given to grant him this power...ok yes i did have to correct this because the executive order that he gave was really not for another term, he gave himself the power to continually, well him and his buddies on the "high" chairs, stay in office as long as its necessary...along with other executive orders, mostly aimed at giving FEMA the power of government in the event of a disaster such as shit falls on the floor or Bush's Daughters couldnt finish that bottle of Puerto Rican Rum because it lit on fire...lol...well disasters can be aimed at anything in the range of social unrest, massive commercial planes crashing without a trail of crash debree or bodies (aka terrorist attacks), imminent nuclear war, series of national disasters, massive death, a depression or a massive drug crisis brought to you by nonother than the war on drugs... anyway they now have the power, well not to only become the government during a state of martial law but actually appoint unellected officials to run different sections or states to control uhhmm well the population, eduation, gas, crops, factories and well its just a funny , ohh you too, that FEMA is not constructed under the Constitution so really this means that they are not restricted under the Constitution, so looking at it the power of government has been given to an association that can appoint officers to control military and the population, food, housing, railroads, airplanes (commercial planes too), highways, your tampon, damn dont even know how to spell them, i mean Bush has actually given them that power, Obama doesnt have to stand in line waiting to pay for his husbands, i mean wifes tampons anymore he can just take yours, but yes FEMA has the power to become everything you dont wanna know thanks to Mr Carter, the trojan...but anyway all this power and remember congress may not review, for six months, when a President declares a state of emergency well actually martial law, so all this governmental power, not elected by the people, and they are not restricted under our constitution, for six months...is it time now?how about now?do you see what they have done to the constitution, the one thing that was ever actually derived to protects us...how about now?

I dont maybe its just me but hey anyone out there, hmm let me know if anyone has heard of this...okay i was reading the other day and i stumbled upon some funny information about a survey they have been giving to those who have join, now im not sure if it was the department of homeland security for FEMA, or some other type of homeland security association but pretty sure it was FEMA, anyway, one of the questions, well one more thing i have to say i think i remember hearing that basically if you wanted to get hired you had to answer yes to everyone of the questions, so anyway the question was, are you physicaly capable of shooting an American Citizen during a state of emergency for disobidience...so this is my take, they are asking if you would shoot someone for lets say, well funny joke i remember my cuz once told me when i was like 16, but he said," What's better a Jew or a pizza, a pizza, it doesnt scream when you stick it in the oven"...yeah well...

[sttony]

I remember a scene on The Simpsons (season 19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_(season_19))) where Marge and Homer are both assassins with the same mission...
Treehouse_of_Horror_XVIII
Mr. and Mrs. Simpson

...In the flashback, when arriving home, Homer locks himself in the bathroom and communicates on a hidden flat screen television, where it is revealed Homer is an assassin assigned to eliminate news reporter, Kent Brockman, by order of Homer's boss, Mr. Burns. Before he leaves, he tells Marge he will be coming home late and makes up a crazy excuse; Marge also states that she is busy and makes up an equally farfetched excuse. When Homer prepares to shoot Brockman at his rooftop party from a faraway platform, a woman with large blonde hair (who Homer dubs "the Mystery Skank") however, stabs Brockman in the chest, killing him instead. After Homer attempts to repeatedly shoot the woman (ending up with several civilian deaths), he manages to shoot the wig off her head, revealing Marge, also an assassin. Arriving home, the two avoid each other's eyes, and Marge makes an excuse for the blonde wig.

Not long after, the two attempt to kill one another with various weapons such as grenades, rifles, and a minigun, all the while arguing why the other was an assassin. http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Treehouse_of_Horror_XVIII

During this fight scene a stray bullet hits the driver of a gas tanker-truck, and the truck crashes into a building that had a banner accross the front that said, "Welcome Republican Convention".

Predictive programing perhaps?

Maybe people might best stay away from the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minnesota during the republican national convention.

[Ostritt]

Fair enough, that was too harsh. No offence Ostritt. Had a few fermented fizzy fluids flowing, forgive my fatuous frivolities. BTW enjoyed your lonesome boatman at the end of the talk in Iquitos, lovely tone off that whistle man!
Vic you can keep your coffee ta, no time to worry about things which may or may not happen such as what mr bush is gonna do next, is putin gonna start ww3, do we all turn into intelligent plasma on 21/12/2012, etc.

No worries man, no offense taken (mainly because I was masturbating furiously as I made up this thread :cool:) One way not to worry about it is to discuss it, otherwise it festers... what you resist persists....

Thanks, enjoyed playing... were you there or did you hear it on the audio files that guy uploaded?

[Hudsonrulez]

I don't really think so. Why? Because it would be WAY obvious. Second there would be serious political consequences for the republicans.

[cheshirecat]

i want to attend a debate class, personally taught by Webster with a focal point on the letter F...and yes...jack bauer rules when he is not interupted by commercials. what a shitty few days that dudes had ay? we can all excell thru peace, love, and understanding...we can all be happy, informed, and uninformed...we all deal with knowledge differently yes...we either lead, follow, or get out of the way...we may all be possible tangent matter of highly intelligent goo come 2012, no one truly knows all, and whatever happens we will have to deal with it one way or another. things often randomly pop into public view, some forms of media are relatively trustworthy, and we should just advertise by word of mouth places that defend our position to accept one anothers viewpoint...peace all, just a silly stoner rambling adjacent thought patterns of post darwinian theory, ie..modern biology...hahathere i go again...peace and love all forum folk!

[itchyboy1]

No worries man, no offense taken (mainly because I was masturbating furiously as I made up this thread :cool:) One way not to worry about it is to discuss it, otherwise it festers... what you resist persists....

Thanks, enjoyed playing... were you there or did you hear it on the audio files that guy uploaded?

Ah you're a proper gent man! Heard the recording from that link you put up, to be honest haven't really heard much that makes all that much sense yet, Ananda was interesting though. I play a bit of flute myself, so can appreciate how tough it is to keep a nice even tone especially when in front of a crowd, fair play to ye!
Anyway, hope you have a good mushie season Ostritt, I'm hoping to check out a few good looking fields in N Antrim, weather's been great for them this year!

[Hudsonrulez]

you know what i just realized? Kiefer Sutherland was born in London England and raised in Toronto! LMAO! :D Leave it to a Canadian to save the USA!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiefer_Sutherland

[Impermanence]

America doesn't need another false flag attack, the Jews (and various other bought or duped groups) have got what they want, the middle east is in chaos, they know now the American public will support any further aggression against the Arabs either because they're powerless to do anything about it or they're too stupid to understand. The military has the endless budget, all the financial institutions and corporations have there fingers in the juicy pies, the contracts have been signed, whether its weapons, energy, pharmaceuticals, it doesn't matter, the game is so rigged now it can never be changed. All the rights of the public have already been scrapped, there's nothing more they can take away, if you live comfortably, it's because they want you too, don't think for a second they're afraid to take it a step further, they have what they need. The empire never ended.

I think the next place we'll see false flag attacks is the internet, some major hack or virus that slows the world economy to a halt and gives them an excuse to tighten up or lock down the WWW, bring in interwebz 2.0.

WW3 is in full effect, keep your eyes on Russia, it was Israel and the Pentagon who directed, armed and trained Georgia for a minor scrap over pipelines in the Caspian sea, make no mistake, that whole event was a Jewish Anglo American attack on Russia simply trying to provoke a bullet swap. Nothing on the world stage happens by accident, they need total chaos to bring about total order, things are going to get a lot worse and this will unite the world under one banner, a new world order, we will all submit in the end, we will learn to love Big Brother, for the alternative will be terrifying.