C-Realm Podcast #67: The Shift

[KMO]

C-Realm Podcast #67: The Shift (http://c-realmpodcast.podomatic.com/entry/2007-12-05T14_27_23-08_00)

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In this installment of the C-Realm Podcast, KMO speaks with Nate
Hagens of theOilDrum.com about the various fantasies for replacing
fossil fuels with bio-fuels, synthetic fuels, or anything else that
will supposedly take up the slack when global oil production peaks and
keep our first world of happy motorists shuttling great distances
everyday in their shiny metal boxes.

Later KMO speaks with Yasmeen
Grant about the new CBC radio documentary, "In Search of the Divine
Vegetal," and finally we hear from fellow podcaster, Lorenzo, about
how sudden disruptions to business as usual can effect an
instantaneous change in consciousness that evaporates the ethnic,
economic, and ideological barriers that divide our communities.

show notes: http://kmo.livejournal.com/325265.html

[Veeg]

Hi KMO, I just wanted to let you know I feel *uplifted* after listening to this podcast. You didn't know it, but it addressed many issues that have been real concerns of mine.

Just a quick side note, I'm pleased to see that the podcast I recommended 'Century of Lies' didn't compete with this C-Realm episode, but I neglected to point out it used extensive clips from Yasmeen Grant's CBC radio documentary "In Search of the Divine Vegetal." This is a departure from the usual format which restricts itself to addressing the harms, both intended (!) and unintended, of drug prohibition. In fact, the only things the C-Realm normally have in common with Dean Becker's podcasts are their integrity of production. I think this particular 'Century of Lies' was attempting to inform a wider audience of Yasmeen’s documentary, who otherwise might not have the opportunity. This is so important on so many levels.

This leads me nicely to what I found so uplifting. Lorenzo hit the mark wonderfully when he stated that we need to reach out to everyone, as people, and that includes the Christian communities.

If we *really* seek to make a difference for the better, then it is simply not good enough to set our selves up into elitist camps, firing off the occasional shots at denouncing organised religion or whatever. This does not mean that the many truly awful failings within our sentient ape organisations should not be vigorously addressed, but addressed in a manner which does not reduce the debate to the same level of intolerance. Ape to Angel. Thank you Lorenzo for daring to dream what we really can be! :)

[Milan]

KMO,

You keep knocking them out of the park! It's my birthday today and I'm taking the day off to enjoy it. :p Listening to the latest installment of the C-Realm was a gift I decided to receive with the free time available. Awesome! You rock!

Nate Hagens is indeed an interesting guest. I've listened to him several times on the 'Reality Report' radio show out of Mendocino California and I've read several of his posts over at the Oil Drum website. One of my favorite is where he discusses cognitive belief biases in relation to peak oil and other issues. Click here (http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3178)for the post. It's a long post with some pretty dense material but relates very well to the C-Realm episode 62: Over-extended. I can't wait to hear more from Nate on the show in 2008.

Man, your show keeps geting better and better. Outstanding....:D

Thanks KMO.

Milan

[Xochipilli2012]

Hey KMO,

Excellent show. I only just finished #67 and am downloading #68 so I can pick up with Lorenzo.

Nate Hagens' and similar voices are not being heard enough by the average 1st world citizen, unfortunately. Perhaps the implications are too uncomfortable to face directly and as with a lot of things, we are going to put off doing anything meaningful about it until the very last second.

My carbon footprint is smaller than it might otherwise be because I do not own a car. Nevertheless, there's always more I could be doing. For example--until recently I would buy my groceries in plastic bags--whatever I can't put in my backpack I would sling over my handlebars. Well, I know plastic is nominally "recyclable" but there is still energy involved as well as solvents and other things unfriendly to the environment. So I am finally carrying reusable cloth bags--but I tell ya, every so often I space and don't have them with me. There are other things I could do, and I hope we each of us do what we can.

I managed to check Yasmeen Grant on the Century of Lies program recommended by Veeg. I wish there was a way to get at her documentary online, but I appreciate that someone's got to pay for it--so the CDs are for sale. I had the pleasure of living in Canada for three years as a grade-schooler, and even at that tender age I recognized something about Canada that seemed...so much more..."Civilized," than the country of my birth. I wish her all the best in your legal career in terms of moving Canadian law forward to be even more respectful of cognitive liberty than that of the "Land of the Free" just south of them.

Finally, I really enjoyed Lorenzo's portion of the program very much. I agree with him, Veeg, and others--that it is really important to reach out to, and connect with people who are not a part of our community, and to do our best to not make them the "other," to whom we compare ourselves in order to make ourselves feel superior. I'm in a similar boat as Lorenzo--most of my family is deeply religious in a tradition I do not share, and they are highly skeptical about our sacred medicines. Yet, they are wonderful, beautiful people. I got to experience that first hand when I went back to Iowa for my father's memorial service last August. I felt more than a little ashamed that I had been keeping myself so distant from them for nearly 30 years because I thought that I was "better than" they were in terms of my values, priorities, etc. I no longer feel this way--we are just different, with none being superior to the other. And maybe Lorenzo is right--perhaps we can provide stability if/when things start getting really weird, because we already have experienced things getting quite weird on a very personal level, and we might be more resilient as a result.

Wonderful show! Thank you very much.

[KMO]

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I managed to check Yasmeen Grant on the Century of Lies program recommended by Veeg. I wish there was a way to get at her documentary online...


Part 1:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5pnemo


Part 2:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/aoikic

[VictoriaPandora]

I also enjoyed the conversation with Lorenzo, if you havent heard "Notes to Myself" ...do. It is a treasure.
I came across it on my san disk today when I was meant to be out and getting things done, it really stopped me in my tracks.

[Xochipilli2012]

Part 1:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/5pnemo

Part 2:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/aoikic

Thanks KMO! That was fast.

Hey--are you seeing any action on your Amazon store yet? I have ordered some things recently that started my click-stream at your store. And I've tried to build links with regard to books with your store referral info in them--don't know if I'm successful.

And finally, Cafe Press sent the replacement mugs, and they are beautiful!

Take care, man!

[BlackBeauty]

What happened to your original mug(s) Xochipilli? Did you see the lovely image KMO posted of my new mug?

[Xochipilli2012]

What happened to your original mug(s) Xochipilli? Did you see the lovely image KMO posted of my new mug?

Heya BB!

Yeah. The day of my surgery the postman left the package at my door (inside of a secured apartment building). As I didn't return for two days, someone had "liberated" the box by the time I got home. For fun I posted a notice on my door in English and Spanish:

Where are my coffee cups?

¿Donde están mis tazas de café?

The managers didn't like me doing that, but I didn't care. (And my Spanish-speaking neighbors might have found things amusing as I'm not sure what I wrote didn't refer to missing cups with coffee in them.) I wanted whoever took them to get a chance to reflect on their act of liberation.

Cafe Press was super-cool about it--although they may have given me some extra love given that my order was to be sent UPS with the implication a signature would be required. There was even a normal UPS tracking number. But it turned out the method used was slightly different--it was first shipped to a local post office, and the US postal service was to take it the rest of the way. Under that circumstance a signature would not be required.

So someone is hopefully enjoying their C-Realm mugs...maybe they might even investigate the C-Realm someday and wind up supporting the show? Weirder stuff could happen.

And yes...I saw the photo. Your desk is much tidier than mine...so we'll just leave it at that, shall we? ;)

[LendogPDX]

So someone is hopefully enjoying their C-Realm mugs...maybe they might even investigate the C-Realm someday and wind up supporting the show? Weirder stuff could happen.


It could happen. Also, if I remember wayyyyy back, the Dopefiend read an e-mail about someone finding out about the podcast from an I-pod that was in a vehicle the person towed, or I could be making that up completely. hmmm

I use one of my mugs here at work, turned one of my co-workers on to your show and I caught him searching on the web for the show by using the coffee mug. He couldn't find it on I-tunes, so I directed him to the web site.

[KMO]

I use one of my mugs here at work, turned one of my co-workers on to your show and I caught him searching on the web for the show by using the coffee mug. He couldn't find it on I-tunes, so I directed him to the web site.

That's awesome!

:D